Synth edit - good or bad

[Puddy]

Just d/l'd Synth edit and managed to piece together a basic synth VST. the software seems pretty good, still getting my head round it though cos i am a NOOB! hehehe

just wondered what you guys thought of it, any badass synthedit VST's any of you have made?
Puddy
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[wayfinder]

just have a look around, there are several topics here where people posted their self made synthedit VSTs...
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http://www.buzzchurch.com/viewtopic.php?t=364
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i ended up concluding that synthedit didnt do anything reaktor wouldnt do better.
and then i ended up concluding it could all practically be done using solely buzzmachines anyways, why bother with the vst overheads? just to give them a chance to randomly crash and suffer preset losses, wasnt worth the bother.

maybe when i get something better then a 1ghz i'll bother with modular vsts again.

[Mirfus]

let's face it - buzz is da boy


BUT - synthedit rocks also

except for the shit quality - but you can always change that

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[Puddy]

[Mirfus]

[mute]

ps: i think we're in general agreement about buzz/peer/etc. instead of reaktor or synthedit. but im still not going to agree with you on the vst stability or preset loss thing. only way i can begin to agree with you on that is if you mean backwards compatibility or updates, or losing plugins you originally worked with, etc. in which case yah, there is less of a problem with that w/ buzz machines than other types of plugins.

the way i mostly work nowadays comes down to mostly buzz machines for effects (if not all) and trickery, but instrument wise ive mostly converted to vst for the past couple of years. effect wise and control wise nothing can beat buzz, maybe bidule can match it but its a much smaller library.

as for why i would use vsts i make in synthedit, i've made a few custom synths and i recreated my jx3p as software but the main reason i use SE is for routing, midi, and effects that no one has made yet (i can only ask buzz devs to make me stuff so many times!~).. or a combination of all that.

you can use SE and vsts to exploit features in buzz that no developer has really exploited properly yet. one of those things for me has always been on the fly routing. originally it started out with Buzz's Aux system, then slowly other forms started showing up like SampleGrid and Polac's Out system.

here's an simple example of exploiting the on the fly routing stuff using a SE vst and polac's out: http://www.plosive.net/buzz/img/1_4.jpg

Now combine that idea with any other feature of buzz or idea u may have and start exploiting that w/ SE ... and u'll be in my frame of mind ;]
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mute: all i know is that all the times i tried loading a synthedit synth it was either too cpu heavy to be of any use or simply crashed/hanged on loading. and ditto for reaktor with the added note that certain synths would crash/mute when loading internal presets. maybe nowdays things arent as dramatic, but quite frankly, even without the bugs, all the cpu load loading a modular vst synth implies allied with the fact that the modules to do it on buzz usually also exist, made me not want to get into those kind of solutions. you need to save the ensemble, the preset and keep the vst installed at all times. it's not an easy thing to "archive" for whenever you need to re-record. alot easier to just use a single .bmx. imho ofcourse

checking your .jpg i now see what you mean with se beeing usefull for certain routing tricks now. looks cute. i've been more for replicating a signal and crossmodulating the parameters on dif effects. but it all depends on what kind of sounds you want to achieve ofcourse

keep experimenting ^^

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