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synthphase
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I wanna touch it!
But where are the other things on the "settings" GUI? I agree that being able to quickly see the midi stuff is more useful then being able to see the LFO, Inertia, Keyzone, etc. So maybe moving that stuff into a separate dialog for each track would work. But some stuff should probably stay on the same screen, what do other people think?
Alternatively, an easy way to quickly see your assignments and midi channels is to open the normal buzz parameter window. I have been thinking that a hotkey, or shortcut in the view menu to open it up would make workflow better though.  |
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Well, it doesn't look bad 
And it could be useful to the workflow.
If polac likes it or wathever i would agree |
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| Posted: Wednesday May 27th, 2009 9:20 Post subject: |
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| synthphase wrote: | | But where are the other things on the "settings" GUI? |
The ideas i had were really for the track-based parameters. As this is a vector photoshop mockup (which allows you to assign sizes and colors really quick), i did only the stuff i had been thinking about for a while.
| synthphase wrote: | | .. being able to see the LFO, Inertia, .. |
In a second rush at this, i'll want to really clarify which are TRACK-based parameters (namely all you see in my mockup):
each Track has
- Channel assignment for Note / Control input
- a Parameter from the VST(i) you can bind to the Control
- AND each of the tracks has individual Inertia and LFO (!)
I suppose a lot of even experienced buzzers need a while to grasp that concept.
This section should be called TRACK PARAMETERS
| synthphase wrote: | | .. Keyzone, etc .. |
Keyzone etc. are really features that deal with how MIDI INPUT / OUTPUT is handled, i.e. everything that is not tracked.
e.g. you can play recorded data on MIDI OUT channel 1, but at the same time pass midi you play on MIDI IN 2 to MIDI OUT 3 etc.
you can only assign one Keyzone per plugin, and that's for input data, not for what is being played back from the track.
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maybe RECORD SETTINGS should have it's own little box, too (with a large overwrite button, i agree.  )
i think by rearranging a few minor things in the GUI, people could grasp much easier what this awesome tool can really do. 
and i agree it should all stay in one window (no need to reinvent the wheel)
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| Posted: Wednesday May 27th, 2009 18:23 Post subject: |
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just checking, but you do know that PVSTi already has all the features above you've mentioned managed pretty much the same way, right? it's all on one window too already and not too different from what you're image shows.. the midi chan doesn't appear to save per track from the gui though (i think that might be a bug tho, because iirc it did save that setting before).
your added window suggestion would just be another window to organize/manage the settings in an alternate fashion (which would actually be pretty nice, i like it. plus it would be a bit more straight forward -ui wise- for ppl that need that extra coddling). i think you know this already, but i just wanted to point that out.
If the suggestion is take to heart, maybe one page (the one we have now) could be the Advanced tab, while the one above could be Track Control or something.
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| Posted: Thursday May 28th, 2009 11:51 Post subject: |
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| groovelastig wrote: | | Quote: | | just checking, but you do know that PVSTi already has all the features above you've mentioned |
yes, hopefully in exactly the way i mentioned 
the idea is to maybe alter the GUI for better usability
(the problem is not so much the number of clicks but people don't get what belongs together, hence the amount of FAQ about PVSTi)
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Actually, I chalk much of that up to alot of people not reading the manual or inspecting for themselves what the F4 window does. That and they're intimidated. You can set solo, mute, record, etc. with the boxes on the right. Use right click to "select" the track #. Each track # retains its own settings re: the settings immediately to the right of the track manager. The rest of the settings past the vertical seperator are global for that specific VSTi instance.
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| Quote: | | the midi chan doesn't appear to save per track |
it does in current PVSTi, for tracked notes. MIDI input / output from the outside can be ALL or filtered to only one channel. |
Yeah I know it does in the tracks, I mean the Midi Chan box itself on the F4 window doesn't independantly save it's setting per track. Not that it needs to or not, but in your image thats what you have so I thought I'd point out that difference.
I think your idea mixed with the notion of MIDI Set's would be cool.
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btw.. just so im not misread or something. i wasn't talkin about you directly or anything, i like your idea. do you know what midi sets are? they're like templates by for midi chan/cc assignments, etc. per instrument. i think your idea of a dedicated track control page mixed with that would be very sexy.
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i get it now. MIDI 1 is supposed to be the Track midi out channel like it is now. but yeah, it would be definitely interesting if it corresponded with the overall input.