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rymix
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 Posted: Sunday April 5th, 2009 23:09 Post subject: Opinions on mutiple files for plugins |
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By and large, most buzz plugins exist solely as a single DLL. What is the feeling on having either multiple DLLs for a single gen/effect, or supporting files (.xml, .config, .dat, etc). ?
Just curious...
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(EDIT: Changed spelling of "opionion" in subject to make me look less of an idiot)
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cellophanemonk
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| Posted: Monday April 6th, 2009 2:07 Post subject: |
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If It means a new Rymix Machine 
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Dego
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| Posted: Monday April 6th, 2009 2:17 Post subject: |
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You mean different versions? Why we would want that? Sorry if it's a dumb question  |
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etruscan
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| Posted: Monday April 6th, 2009 2:24 Post subject: |
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I wouldn't object personally, as long as the supporting files are all in the same directory; it can be confusing if one is in Gear\, another one is in Gear\Generators, etc. I'm always in favour of new stuff  |
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rymix
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| Posted: Monday April 6th, 2009 4:54 Post subject: |
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| Dego wrote: | | You mean different versions? Why we would want that? Sorry if it's a dumb question |
Not different versions, but multiple files for the same version, for instance:
Rymix_AcoustiBox.dll
Rymix_AcoustiBox_GUI.dll
The second DLL would be a helper dll for the graphical interface. My dilemma is that I haven't coded in C++ in seven years and REALLY like .NET and C#, so I am very inclined to write graphical stuff in .NET, but it would require a second DLL.
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rymix
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| Posted: Monday April 6th, 2009 5:02 Post subject: |
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| cellophanemonk wrote: | | If It means a new Rymix Machine |
Nah, I'm using my pseudonym "btd" for this one. 
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kibibu
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| Posted: Monday April 6th, 2009 5:28 Post subject: |
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SampleGrid 2 uses a core dll renamed to .dlx or something. I wonder if such a thing is possible in with the .net stuff.
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mute
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| Posted: Monday April 6th, 2009 5:34 Post subject: |
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if such is the case i appreciate it when the plugin uses a subfolder to keep these things organized.
like;
gear/generators/soundthingy.dll
gear/generators/soundthingy/stuff.dll (i.e. ./soundthingy/)
or whatever.. even if its outside the gear dir.
the gear dirs get kind of messy because all the helpfiles and supporting files and everything for the majority of machines go in the one directory. the root buzz directory sort of suffers from the same problem too.
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oskari
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| Posted: Monday April 6th, 2009 5:47 Post subject: |
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| rymix wrote: |
Rymix_AcoustiBox.dll
Rymix_AcoustiBox_GUI.dll
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You should call it Rymix_AcoustiBox.GUI.dll. Buzz detects the string ".GUI.dll" and won't treat is as a machine. The other option is to do what mute said. |
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Dego
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| Posted: Monday April 6th, 2009 8:35 Post subject: |
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| rymix wrote: | (...) I am very inclined to write graphical stuff in .NET, but it would require a second DLL.
-rymix |
No biggy as long as it's organically clean (what mute and oskari said). |
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kibibu
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| Posted: Monday April 6th, 2009 8:42 Post subject: |
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| oskari wrote: |
You should call it Rymix_AcoustiBox.GUI.dll. Buzz detects the string ".GUI.dll" and won't treat is as a machine. The other option is to do what mute said. |
Good to know. Is this new behaviour?
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oskari
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| Posted: Monday April 6th, 2009 9:00 Post subject: |
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| kibibu wrote: | | oskari wrote: |
You should call it Rymix_AcoustiBox.GUI.dll. Buzz detects the string ".GUI.dll" and won't treat is as a machine. The other option is to do what mute said. |
Good to know. Is this new behaviour? |
Yes, I've been working on a new machine that has a C#/WPF pattern editor for a few days. |
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shango
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| Posted: Monday April 6th, 2009 15:46 Post subject: |
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I wish peer ctrl had a assigment.xml file....find and replace will work great in big controller mappings, so if you plan a machine with loads of customizable stuff bring on the extra files.
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rymix
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| Posted: Monday April 6th, 2009 18:14 Post subject: |
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| oskari wrote: | | kibibu wrote: | | oskari wrote: |
You should call it Rymix_AcoustiBox.GUI.dll. Buzz detects the string ".GUI.dll" and won't treat is as a machine. The other option is to do what mute said. |
Good to know. Is this new behaviour? |
Yes, I've been working on a new machine that has a C#/WPF pattern editor for a few days. |
Sounds pretty sweet. This dual-DLL deal is what I have in mind for future projects, and it's about time I actually learn WPF as I will end up needing it for work. Thanks for the suggestions (you, mute & kibibu) for how to organize. I will definitely need to think through this for some of the more complex upcoming stuff.
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JoaCHIP
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| Posted: Monday June 1st, 2009 9:33 Post subject: |
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Dual .dll files is cool, but I would hate to have to wait for the entire damn .NET framework to load up. I mean, that would probably tempt me not to use such the plugin.
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oskari
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| Posted: Monday June 1st, 2009 17:45 Post subject: |
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| JoaCHIP wrote: | | Dual .dll files is cool, but I would hate to have to wait for the entire damn .NET framework to load up. I mean, that would probably tempt me not to use such the plugin. |
It only takes something like 200ms to create a Jeskola Limiter for the first time on my computer. I don't think it's a problem. |
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