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Fuzzpilz
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 Posted: Thursday September 23rd, 2004 16:06 Post subject: Sorry, but... |
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...I've started writing another synth. Some explanation in the .txt file.
aegouihhaoeguh
Yes, vibrato and LFOs and more delicious tomfoolery will be added. Please don't hurt me.
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If anyone's downloaded it yet, do so again. There was a bug in the saturation env modulation that caused it to click merrily. |
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z_tetha
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| Posted: Friday September 24th, 2004 7:08 Post subject: |
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| getting some percussive noises out of this one , and with some chorus some ambient noises |
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Fuzzpilz
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| Posted: Saturday September 25th, 2004 1:32 Post subject: |
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| Update. Sounds better, is cheaper. More waveforms. Different glide. Grugh. |
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wayfinder
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tonfang
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Fuzzpilz
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| Posted: Saturday September 25th, 2004 12:48 Post subject: |
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| Fixed a clicky problem brought to my attention by tonfang's demo. (listen to it and solo smell!4 before downloading the new version) |
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tonfang
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Fuzzpilz
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| Posted: Saturday September 25th, 2004 14:43 Post subject: |
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| I accidentally broke the legato mode in the last version, it's back now. |
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Fuzzpilz
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| Posted: Sunday September 26th, 2004 0:55 Post subject: |
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| By the way, does anybody think the oscs sound a bit weak on very low notes? If so, I'll increase the table size, but that'll mean more memory (right now I'm already using about 65 KB per waveform) and more precalc time. |
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Fuzzpilz
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| Posted: Sunday September 26th, 2004 2:36 Post subject: |
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| Added vibrato (env moddable, of course). Generic LFOs next. |
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Xenobioz
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| Posted: Sunday September 26th, 2004 11:09 Post subject: |
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Awesome  this looks like its going to be my new favorite synth  
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intoxicat
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| Posted: Sunday September 26th, 2004 17:32 Post subject: |
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very nice machine machine this one. You certainly do not have to apologise for coding machines! (especially since i have wanted a pm synth like this for quite a while)
great to see you have implemented nice yamaha like envelopes and not just adsr's
a request: It would be nice if there was a parameter for set different amounts of amp velocity-sensitivity for each of oscs 2-4 as this would enable a bit more expressive sounds to be created. Particularly piano-like patches...
Not sure if 3 filters really are are needed for a synth like this. 1 maybe, but three i think is just clogging the interface up, Others might disagree of course..
cheers
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Fuzzpilz
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| Posted: Sunday September 26th, 2004 20:10 Post subject: |
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The velocity thing sounds interesting. I'm considering it.
Also: update! Added two LFOs; both can be modulated by the envelopes and modulate the envelopes and each other's speed and the entire universe AND your face. Maybe. |
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Xenobioz
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| Posted: Sunday September 26th, 2004 20:35 Post subject: |
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| intoxicat wrote: |
Not sure if 3 filters really are are needed for a synth like this. 1 maybe, but three i think is just clogging the interface up, Others might disagree of course..
cheers
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3 filters are really needed, use the 3 of jacinth very often. They are great for formants and other stuph.
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elekt
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| Posted: Sunday September 26th, 2004 20:36 Post subject: |
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more for teh gear junkies.  :mrpink: :mrorange: :mrwhite: |
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intoxicat
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| Posted: Sunday September 26th, 2004 21:06 Post subject: dividers |
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As this synth it growing larger by the minute (almost literally) is there any chance you could implement dividers (like on btd's pulsar synth, pretty pictures are not needed...) between parameter groups to make it easier to program.
also a cosine wave option would be cool (like on my tx81z) |
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Fuzzpilz
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| Posted: Sunday September 26th, 2004 21:11 Post subject: Re: dividers |
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| intoxicat wrote: |
also a cosine wave option would be cool (like on my tx81z)
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No, it wouldn't, as a cosine is simply a phase shifted sine. Instead I'll add that generic osc phase parameter wayfinder asked for, since it seems to be in greater demand.
Dividers sound like a good idea, though. |
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z_tetha
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| Posted: Sunday September 26th, 2004 22:56 Post subject: |
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| also a devide in the parameter view ? between the several waveforms modules. not a major request .. |
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intoxicat
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| Posted: Monday September 27th, 2004 21:57 Post subject: |
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| i think i meant the parameter view when i suggested dividers - these should automatically include divders in the pattern view (i think...) |
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Fuzzpilz
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| Posted: Tuesday September 28th, 2004 0:50 Post subject: |
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I broke envelope modulation and nobody noticed. You're terrible beta testers.  It's fixed now. |
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geroyche
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| Posted: Tuesday September 28th, 2004 1:13 Post subject: |
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i was just about to report that... 
http://geroyche.c8.com/fiespulzz.bmx
 stoopid demo featuring a pyramid, a beat sample and nothing but fuzzpilz betas
best before 09/28 i guess
update: haha outdated already now.... 
update2: longer and compatible to tha new chorpse |
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Fuzzpilz
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| Posted: Thursday September 30th, 2004 22:02 Post subject: |
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Worked on Cheese some more. Additions:
Hardsync, and individual pitch env mod of osc 2, 3 and 4.
Oversampling. Don't turn this on unless you're using PM or sync, and then only if there's noticable aliasing. It's a huge waste of CPU time otherwise. Yes, the filter I use for it now sucks. I'll see if I can come up with a better one. |
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z_tetha
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| Posted: Friday October 1st, 2004 12:33 Post subject: |
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| yeah deviders for pattern and parameter views ... a line some kind of indication |
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Fuzzpilz
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| Posted: Friday October 1st, 2004 16:41 Post subject: |
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Added different sync modes, a phase offset parameter for oscs 2, 3 and 4, and the LFOs can now also modulate individual oscs' pitch.
I won't add dividers until it's mostly finished and I've rearranged the parameters in a way that makes more sense than the quasi-random jumble they're now. |
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Fuzzpilz
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| Posted: Tuesday October 5th, 2004 18:03 Post subject: |
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| No new features yet, but I improved the oscillators and fixed a bug that caused significant aliasing under certain circumstances. |
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Fuzzpilz
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| Posted: Wednesday October 6th, 2004 1:07 Post subject: |
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| Osc phase can now be modulated by envelopes and LFOs. There are separate upsaw and downsaw waveforms now; add these and mess with the phase to get a PWM'd square, if you like. |
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wayfinder
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| Posted: Wednesday October 6th, 2004 7:39 Post subject: |
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It's so fucking cool watching a thing like this grow from nothing into an awesome and versatile synthesizer.
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z_tetha
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z_tetha
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| Posted: Wednesday October 6th, 2004 18:49 Post subject: |
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there is a big un unweildy3 , or maybe im using it arseways.
please listen. dont skip.
http://www.buzzalicious.net/images/keeplistening.bmx
it would rock if you would fix an otherwhise brillliant delay unit
i think its the phase that causes that crazyness towards the end
EDIT : since this post cheese is updated and this bmx wont load propperly using the downloadable cheese from the link above.
dont bother downloading it unless you have the 88kb version
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Fuzzpilz
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| Posted: Wednesday October 6th, 2004 19:25 Post subject: |
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| No - the filter resonance is too high, that's all. Turn it down, or the feedback. (nice song, by the way) |
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z_tetha
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| Posted: Wednesday October 6th, 2004 21:03 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | there is a big un unweildy3 |
f34r my 7yp0s
that was quick thanks. Hail Fuzzpilz. & buzzchurch .
i swear, sometimes my head is not attached to this body.
check the string sound at the very end. this thing makes phat noises man, really good work.
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Fuzzpilz
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| Posted: Thursday October 7th, 2004 14:42 Post subject: |
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| Added pan per note, and of course LFOs and mod envelopes can target panning as well. |
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kmkrebs
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| Posted: Saturday October 9th, 2004 2:26 Post subject: |
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| Am I the only one who cannot get this synth working through polac's loader? (yes, I have the latest version) |
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Fuzzpilz
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| Posted: Saturday October 9th, 2004 3:56 Post subject: |
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| You're not. It stopped working when I added pan - unfortunately I haven't been able to track down exactly why yet. It does work if you save and reload, at least using the latest public release of pvst. |
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Fuzzpilz
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| Posted: Saturday October 9th, 2004 4:24 Post subject: |
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| There's a quick fix up now - but panning won't work if you load this into pvst (unless you're loading a bmx containing it). Apparently pvst has problems with non-mdk stereo machines. |
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Fuzzpilz
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| Posted: Saturday October 9th, 2004 14:34 Post subject: |
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| Changed the behaviour of the velocity param a bit; finally got around to adding oscillator-specific velocity sensitivity. I think I should do the same for envelopes and perhaps LFOs, opinions? |
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ld0d
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| Posted: Saturday October 9th, 2004 14:55 Post subject: |
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| I hope the synth doesn't blow up in your hands... there are already too many synths that are so hard and slow to program due to the awful lot of parameters, that nobody uses them. Keep it sensible |
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Fuzzpilz
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| Posted: Saturday October 9th, 2004 15:06 Post subject: |
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| ld0d wrote: | | I hope the synth doesn't blow up in your hands... there are already too many synths that are so hard and slow to program due to the awful lot of parameters, that nobody uses them. Keep it sensible |
Valuable advice, and nobody knows this better than you. I don't think I'll be adding a lot more, though - mostly stuff for handling custom waveforms and envelopes. As it is now, I think it's usable, but that's probably because I wrote it and know exactly how it works.  |
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ld0d
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| Posted: Saturday October 9th, 2004 15:22 Post subject: |
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| Fuzzpilz wrote: | | Valuable advice, and nobody knows this better than you. I don't think I'll be adding a lot more, though - mostly stuff for handling custom waveforms and envelopes. As it is now, I think it's usable, but that's probably because I wrote it and know exactly how it works. |
Well, it's not the individual parts that may be complicated to use, but instead their relationships. And if there are a lot of parameters visible at the same time, one can get a certain "blindness" to it all... especially in buzz, where grouping the parameters is a major pain in the ass. One way to fix this would be to add more automation - a bit like what infector does. Then again this affects the synth's perceived "sound" quite a bit since multiple parameters would be linked to each other in a unique way.
Having a lot of parameters also slows down using the synth. Most of the time is spent looking for the right knob to twitch; adding automation helps here too.
Actually I think that someone should try hiding most of the parameters behind another interface and only expose a few as buzz parameters. I've also been thinking of (yet another) additional dll that could save and load machine-specific settings from buzz .prs preset comments. Needs a little bit of ui hacking to link it to the preset list buttons but after that's done it's simple |
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vectrex
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| Posted: Saturday October 9th, 2004 15:37 Post subject: |
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do not mock thy Jacinth kind sir or fisticuffs it shall be!
>> Valuable advice, and nobody knows this better than you.
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